Too young

February 21, 2007 at 3:47 pm (ethics)

Recently, a young man of 18 was placed in prison for 3 years for sexually assaulting his girlfriend, who is 16. Throughout the case, the young man vehemently expressed his love for his girlfriend and his firm belief that their relationship was morally justifiable. Furthermore, the prosecution clearly stated that the girl had never claimed to be raped, rather that their sexual contact had been consensual. Most of the evidence produced in this case was provided by the parents of the alleged victim. My quandry is this: was the court justified in convicting an 18 year old boy, who had shown nothing other than love and care for his girlfriend, for sexual assault? Can our justice system tell people, regardless of age, who they can and cannot love? Or was this boy only acting in accordance to his own moral belief and his love for his girlfriend wrongfully accused and sentenced? If he was morally justified in his actions, then what age is too young? Where do we draw the line for love and age?

Thoughts and criticisms appreciated.

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8 Comments

  1. commander cool said,

    If the girl consented, and moreover, STILL doesn’t even mind, then this case is just ridiculous.

  2. the crooner said,

    If the boy really loved her, he would have kept it in his pants until she was legal. If you want to sleep with young people, petition your local senator to lower the age of consent for you state (the average age is 16 to 17, though a few states go as low as 14 or 15). Otherwise, go find someone your own age to sleep with and spare us all the sob story about your oppressed love.

  3. don't know said,

    I dated a 15 year old when I was 19. There was a one month span between our birthdays where I was 20 and she was 15. This was the only time it was illegal for us to have sex in my state, I contacted a police detective for accurate info after my parents threatened to turn me in. We broke the law at least once. Does she regret it? i donno, I’ll ask her tonight, we just got back from a ski trip. Good thing i wasn’t in Wisconsin. Do i think i was wrong? Not sure, but kids are supposed to make mistakes, thats how they learn. Seems to have worked out good. Why do people fear children making mistakes so much? I wish i had made more. I could have at least tried mushrooms once before i quite that kind of thing

    sex is only such a problem for young people because they are so far removed from it. Sex is a big secret, it’s behind closed doors. Children don’t know anything about it when they are physically ready for it and wanting to try it.

    “As industry and the arts spread and flower, the scorned cultivator, burdened with taxes necessary for the maintenance of luxury and condemned to spend his life between labor and hunger, abandons his fields to go to the cities in search of the bread he ought to carry there.” – Rousseau

  4. rabeldin said,

    Dont Know wrote:
    ‘Not sure, but kids are supposed to make mistakes, thats how they learn’.

    But if they’re never held responsible for their mistakes, how are they to learn? That 18-yr boy has now learned that it ain’t a good thing to fuck a 16-yr girl! See? He’s learning from his mistakes …which is what you suggest, right?

    What I find interesting is why none of us fucked an underage girl? Is that cause, somehow, we learned that lesson some other way??? But that boy was too fuckin’ stupid to learn it without doin’ it?? Hmm?

    But all-in-all, I think some of you are right …age is just a legal “thing”. I think any horny male should be permitted to fuck any girl, at any age, that he can find! ….LOL!

  5. soniarott said,

    Commander Cool wrote:
    If the girl consented, and moreover, STILL doesn’t even mind, then this case is just ridiculous.

    Not quite. It is thought that non-adults have an imperfect will. According to whichever legal definition is used for an adult (obviously the bar is above 16 years old) it cannot be ascertained that the girl has consented because she is thought not to be able to properly express her will. In that case her parents, who are responsible for her well-being can express her will for her (Daddy knows what?s best).
    In the Netherlands the legal age for sex is 16, so obviously one can question whether she can express her will without flaw in reality.

    We all warm ourselves on fires we did not kindle. We all drink from wells we did not dig. – ancient Celtic saying

  6. mijn said,

    Laws don’t stop pedophiles, they imprison them, along with the innocent caught up in the laws as this case points out. Is it possible that some laws cause greater evils than that which they attempt to fix? Or further, that laws, in and of themselves, give rise to evils that other laws must be founded to surpress? Let us not forget that laws are only created for things people want to do. To stop evil one must be taught good. Creating artificial consequences for actions is putting a bandaid on a wound that will bleed forever.

    “As industry and the arts spread and flower, the scorned cultivator, burdened with taxes necessary for the maintenance of luxury and condemned to spend his life between labor and hunger, abandons his fields to go to the cities in search of the bread he ought to carry there.” – Rousseau

  7. baron max said,

    Mijn wrote:
    Creating artificial consequences for actions is putting a bandaid on a wound that will bleed forever.

    Now just what the hell does that mean??

    Please think about that and then, after you’ve thought about it some, please explain it in terms of the “real world”. …or is that just some sci-fi novel that ye’re starting to write?

  8. mijn said,

    Baron Max wrote:
    ‘Now just what the hell does that mean??

    Please think about that and then, after you’ve thought about it some, please explain it in terms of the “real world”. …or is that just some sci-fi novel that ye’re starting to write’?

    Anything for the Baron! It means artificial consequences, that is imprisonment which would not happen in say a state of nature but brought about to surpress certain wants of individuals, does not fix the problem of those individuals wanting to still do those evils, nor does it stop them from doing them in the first place. It only inacts a revenge on that which has already been done. Since it does not cause the problem to go away it is not a fix, it only gives people comfort that there is a fix, or at least that at least something is being done to try to fix the problem. While to stop evil deeds people must be taught good. Hence imprisonment is like putting a banaid on society when it really needs stiches. Furthermore, the vast majority of prisoners become worse through their punishment not better. Evil acts are a reflection of a failed society, not the need to punish, but to educate. It is society that needs fixing. Peoples fear overwhemls their sense of justice. Do you still believe my metaphor was innacurate? In its objective not its truth.

    “As industry and the arts spread and flower, the scorned cultivator, burdened with taxes necessary for the maintenance of luxury and condemned to spend his life between labor and hunger, abandons his fields to go to the cities in search of the bread he ought to carry there.” – Rousseau

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